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Gambling and the un-educated

Posted by RounderChris On December - 26 - 2007

So your a professional gambler?
No, professional “poker player”!

oh, what’s the difference?

Above is the conversation with almost anybody that learns what I do for a living. most, rarely learn the differences between poker and “house games” ignoring the fact that poker is the only game in a casino that the house has zero interest in the outcomes, it’s also the only game that requires any decision making. while some may point to blackjack, I go back to the fact that the house DOES have interest in the outcome of blackjack so while you may lose allot less over a much larger time period anybody with any real skill or ability to be a winner at blackjack is asked to leave the casino and never welcome to play there again. blacklisted not only within that casino but any casino within that area or in some cases across the country.

Poker players pay the house a fee for running a safe and protected game. luck is a factor in poker however in the long term the skill level required to be a winning player is far greater.

When governments are involved with gambling the odds are always worse and the ad campaigns are usually geared towards the idea that their casino’s provide greatly to the local economy. here in Arizona whenever you see a commercial for a casino it involves telling you how they have hired more police, built more schools, raised school budgets and so-on. aside from presenting a false front for how casino funds are used, they also target the compulsive people with slogans such as “you can’t win if you don’t play”what’s most amazing is that the biggest gamblers and the ones most targeted are usually those that have been conservative in all financial aspects of their lives, they work hard at steady long term jobs such as the post office, they are close if not already in retirement, they always asked questions and researched financial decisions they made. they are among the un-educated when it comes to gambling and their chances to win. they expect that the casino is handing out money and they are getting in line to receive their share. when you sit and really try to estimate the yearly income that a casino receives it’s hard to imagine that we still have homeless with all the good work they use that money for, it’s hard to believe that school teachers are still underpaid and the school system is still under performing, that is if you believe that casinos were built for the betterment of society’s economy.

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The Poker Road

Posted by RounderChris On December - 21 - 2007

A few days ago my dad wanted to take drive with me out to Harrah’s and we ended up taking to longest route possible and drove 2 hours getting there. It’s been at least 8 years since I have been to Harrah’s Ak-chin, I sat down with dad at a $3/6 hold’em table while I waited for an Omaha hi/low table to start. I was moved to the Omaha table after 6 un-played hands.

Omaha at Harrah’s was amazing to say the least, I was the youngest player at the table by at least 40 years, Normally you would expect the older crowd to be a group of rocks that would not bet till they had a lock but that was furthest from the truth with these players. I got the feeling after 30 minutes or so that some of these guys wound up at the Omaha table because they heard it was like Hold’em with 4 cards. This was more a day off as playing low stakes Omaha for me is almost as enjoyable as watching 6 hours of the BBC channel. I had a great time chatting it up with my table and really did not take the game all that serious. I am looking forward to playing more live poker in the new year, Sometimes it’s important to examine your strengths in certain games and modify where appropriate.

It’s easy to say “I’ll just continue playing online” since I have not had a losing month in like 2 years, but is it the most profitable?? I spent hours go over my poker tracker database of the last year and compared it to the reports I have from 2-3 years ago and one thing became gleaming to me and that being how more difficult the games have become online. Players online particularly Full Tilt Poker, are for the most part savvy aggressive players. Since the downfall of party poker it seems that Full Tilt has picked up all the winning players that were killing the Party games however lacking are the fish that were producing those games.

I am not driven in this profession to “beat the best” or challenge myself playing tougher competition, Game selection is very important to me, and soft games are very plentiful in local card rooms. My plans for 2008 are to play more live games than online. I am planning several trips however nothing is definite other than Vegas in January and possibly Tunica the same month. I have a desire to visit Laughlin simply because I have never been there however one person described it to me as “where old people go to visit their parents” so that trip will be on hold till I have some spare time to kill.

I am going to be playing far more tournaments this year, both live and online. I have never been impressed with the “Online tournament pro’s” so I believe that facet of online is still soft. Once a week I will be playing a live tournament with 100% of my winnings going to Susan G. Komen for the Cure, I will have a tournament schedule posted as soon as I can. Also, our next Playing4aCure tournament will be sometime around January 15th.

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The Games Change……..and get better!

Posted by RounderChris On December - 13 - 2007

If you keep a close eye on what is happening in online poker you no doubt notice more PLO (pot limit Omaha) games than ever before, Due in large part I believe to the high profile players that frequent the nose bleed stakes on Full Tilt Poker such as Gus Hansen, David Benyamine, Phil Ivey, SBrugby & many more. People watched these games, saw the action and the consistent wins by the players above (exception gus hansen for consistent) and it really took off! I remember a time when there were no PLO games on FTP above .10/.25 and even those only had a few tables ever going. Now your seeing more & more high stakes holdem online professionals playing PLO trying to learn the game, they realize that the draw to Omaha is very very high right now among the wealthy fish. “OMGclayaiken” (Phil Galfond) recently started playing $200/400 PLO and has done very well thus far although his competition has been less than stellar with the absence lately of David Benamine, SBrugby and Phil Ivey replaced by the presence of Guy Laliberte and online donator “luck123″.

Now there is a strong rising in the Razz games as of late, I can’t explain why but this seems to be a fastly growing game at least on Full Tilt, There have been no famous faces (or avatars) in these games so I cant say what is the driving force behind it – But I’m not going to complain!!!
I love to see the diversity of games, I love to see people taking shots in games they never learned before. It’s a great time to be a mixed-game specialist!

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David “Chip” Reese Passes At Only 56

Posted by RounderChris On December - 5 - 2007

It’s hard to explain the respect that I, as well as many grinders have for Chip Reese.

I guess it’s natural to respect someone that is so talented In areas that your passionate about. I never met Chip in person really, Although I felt like I knew him.
My encounter with Chip was one that many poker players have experienced, Chip would pass through the poker room at Bellagio headed towards the high limit room and you felt like the star of the show had just arrived. This was his office and his office was located wherever the biggest game in town was running. Chip would try to entice others to join him in the game by saying things like “Hey, were playing all your best games over here, I cant believe your not going to take a shot” Chip was a classic like that, playfull yet always kind and respectful to those like me that just wanted to say hello to a legend.

I read a post on a forum last night that was saying “RIP chip, We appreciate all that you did for poker” Did for poker????? What did Chip do for poker? This is one of those things that irritates me to no end about players today – this is not a sport regardless of how much it’s aired on ESPN, These are not heroes who sacrifice of themselves for the betterment of society in this game, Chip sat at a poker table and waited for someone to sit down and play him and he wanted every dollar that person had. Chip relied on poker to support himself and his family, Chip was after your money – And that’s what poker is about and that is why I respected the man! Lets not change or invent things about Chip, He was great the way he was.

How many people know the true history of the World Series Of Poker? do you believe that it was established to determine who the greatest player at that time was? you would be dead wrong! The WSOP was created by those that made their living playing the game, Guys like Doyle Brunson, Johnny Moss and Puggy Pearson. They wanted it not so they could play against each other – they could do that anytime! They wanted a prestigious event that would draw Millionaires and wealthy doctors, lawyers and businessmen to Las Vegas to play the event – not to get the $10k buy-in from these guys, that was peanuts! They knew that there would be more players for the side games (more fish) the WSOP was created FOR the cash games. Nobody really cared who won the tournament. I have travelled the poker tournament trail for years – And I have never played a WPT or WSOP tournament – I follow the money that flocks to the side games. Chip rarely played the WSOP events besides the main event or the $50k H.O.R.S.E event because he was getting the easy money from the cash games during the WSOP. While others chased the ESPN cameras and longed for the fame and glory of television time, Chip stayed true to what he was, and I am not about to change that.
The man was a true professional and that is what I loved about him! He walked a path that few follow and fewer survive and he flourished! R.I.P Chip!
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AP News Report:
LAS VEGAS (AP) — David “Chip” Reese, a card star who won one of the biggest cash games in the world and three World Series of Poker championships, has died. He was 56.
Reese died in his sleep and was found by his son early Tuesday morning at his Las Vegas home after suffering from symptoms of pneumonia, said poker great Doyle Brunson, his longtime friend.

“I knew him for 35 years, I never saw him get mad or raise his voice,” Brunson said. “He had the most even disposition of anyone I’ve ever met. He’s certainly the best poker player that ever lived.”

After attending Dartmouth College, Reese was on his way to Stanford business school in the early 1970s when he stopped by a Las Vegas poker room and won big, said World Series of Poker media director Nolan Dalla.
“He just accidentally stumbled into Las Vegas and never left,” Dalla said.
His immediate success at cash games and low-key persona won him friends, even among those who wound up passing him their chips.

Despite winning three World Series champion’s bracelets over the last four decades, including a $1.8 million HORSE event in 2005 that combines five poker disciplines, Reese focused his attention on high-stakes cash games away from the limelight.

“I’ve seen him with a million dollars in front of him,” said Dalla, describing how Reese would put out racks of $5,000 chips “like he was betting a few bucks.”
Reese was part of a generation of players in the 1970s that challenged established greats like Brunson, Thomas “Amarillo Slim” Preston Jr. and Walter Clyde “Puggy” Pearson, Dalla said.

Brunson and Reese eventually became business partners, investing in everything from oil wells and mining to TV stations and racehorses and becoming sports betting consultants.
None of the ventures was successful, Brunson said.
“We went to look for the Titanic. We went to look for Noah’s Ark. We were two of the biggest suckers whenever it came to business, but we both had poker to fall back on,” Brunson said. “Thank God we could play, so we always survived.”

Reese’s prowess at both cash and tournament play was cemented with his 2005 win, said World Series of Poker commissioner Jeffrey Pollack.
“Many consider Chip the greatest cash-game player who ever lived,” Pollack said in a news release. “His victory in the inaugural $50,000 buy-in HORSE championship … made him a part of WSOP lore forever.”

Reese is survived by a son, a daughter and a stepdaughter, Brunson said. He was recently divorced from his wife.
Services are planned for Friday in Las Vegas, Brunson said.

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The Absolute Worse Play In Poker

Posted by RounderChris On December - 2 - 2007

“how could you call that raise?”, “you called for a gutshot?”, “Oh my god you are horrible!”, These are just a few of the lines that I have heard thrown at other players at the table usually from a player that has little skill or talent in the game himself.
This is the worse play in poker because it spans through any game and any stake, the only “universal bad play”.

Worse than calling a pot size bet with only 2 cards in the deck to win with is pointing out to the player that does so what a bad spot to put his money in. It’s as if these players are only happy getting called by a better hand than their own. Sure it sucks when you get money in against a weak draw and it hits for a huge pot but that is poker – “If losers never won their would be no good games!” That line you should understand fully and if need be read it a few times to grasp it’s full meaning.

People like the idea of a poker game because they feel as if they have more control over the outcome, In a roulette game they can do nothing but pick a number, same goes for craps or any casino house game – They flock to the poker rooms because they want some control and they realize the house is not involved in the outcome so it’s a fair game. We should be happy in fact delighted when these players take a chance in our game, When you criticize their plays and point out what seems obvious to you in an attempt to make them feel stupid – you usually succeed, And that is REALLY stupid!!

Aside from this just not making financial sense it’s just plain rude and obnoxious, This used to be a game of gentleman. yelling out “YESSSSSSS” after a hand is just as obnoxious, I get so tired of players jumping up and celebrating when they win a pot, this is seen far more in tournament poker than cash games and it shows a complete lack of respect for other players in the room. This is one of the biggest reasons I hate watching poker on television, random dude gets all in with KQ vs 77 – jumps up and down and celebrates when he wins the coin flip, I wonder if these guys act this way in the middle of quick trip after a $28 win from a scratcher ticket.

My next post should probably be about how bad tournament players are and how little decorum they show at the poker table.

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